48 Years Ago...

"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
06/14/2020 at 07:56 • Filed to: None

Funny stuff (says the guy who still hasn’t received confirmation that his cancer is gone because he can’t afford to go to the doctor...)

DISCUSSION (24)

pip bip - choose Corrour > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/14/2020 at 08:17

USA needs socialism

OPPOsaurus WRX > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/14/2020 at 08:29

Yea now two weeks will cost you 20 years salary

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/14/2020 at 08:34

I’ve been very lucky in my life to never have had and surgeries. A pretty uncommon thing for a 30 year old. That means I’ve never needed to look the bill for one. I know someday that luck will run out.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > OPPOsaurus WRX
06/14/2020 at 08:38

I can’t imagine what you could have that would keep you in the hospital for two weeks these days. They tossed me out after two days when I had my surgery, and I think I was in for 3-4 days for the pulmonary embolism.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/14/2020 at 08:43

My first stay in the hospital was when I was 45, and my first surgery at age 52. I don’t know if my situation is abnormal, but the thought of someone under 40 requiring surgery seems somewhat odd to me. Sure, there will be those born with health issues or that have accidents that will skew the charts, but for the most part I would think that surgery more common amongst us olds.

Wacko > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/14/2020 at 08:46

Not to rub it in but I’m glad To be a Canadian. Sure our health care system ain’t perfect, but Is better than the for profit system Americans have. I don’t have to be super lucky to have a job that has decent insurance. We all have the same coverage when it comes to the hospital. But when it comes to medication we do have different plans, and I just happen to have one of the best in Canada, since I work for a very profitable Gold mine.

Tekamul > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/14/2020 at 08:54

I was in the hospital for surgery for 5 days. The bill was more than the price of my house.

We've come a long way, baby!

Svend > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/14/2020 at 09:06

My step-brother was diagnosed with cancer when he was 36-7.

He had a bad time of it, not the worst by any means, but he reacted to one part of the treatment and had to do things a little more differently.

In the end they had to go in and open him up.

He’s clear and fine now.

The only thing he had to pay for was trains to and from hospital as he doesn’t drive (ut he was low income or had an exemption he would get his transport paid or free volunteer transport from his house to the hospital and they would wait until he’s finished the appointment to take him home).

He went on sick leave from work, so he got full pay for six months, then half pay afterwards, but during the early treatment as he was back at work here and there, it restarted him full pay sick leave. He still got work bonuses if his store did well.

In England we have to pay about Ł9 for a prescription (doesn’t matter what it is) (Scotland and Wales don’t), but if you need more than one prescription a week, month, etc... you can buy a Pre-payment Prescription Certificate which is

Ł29.65 which covers nearly all prescriptions for 3 months or

Ł105.90 which covers nearly all prescriptions for 12 months.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/14/2020 at 09:27

A series of trips to the emergency room, a fall requiring multiple MRIs and a short stay in the hospital nearly bankrupted us. It took us 10 years to clear all the debt. That’s with insurance.

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/14/2020 at 09:36

Was reading an article yesterday about a guy who was hospitalized for covid in the US. Long story short he recovered and went home only to get a bill for 1.2 million dollars in the mail shortly thereafter.

He almost keeled over.

Luckily for him his insurance would cover the bulk of it, and there was some mention of the government programs covering the rest so he wouldn’t be out of pocket at all.

Talk about sticker shock tho.

Guy now has survivors guilt over how much money it cost to keep him alive.

facw > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/14/2020 at 09:51

I remain annoyed that during the Democratic debates Medicare for All was repeatedly presented as radical and un affordable , while continuing with a system that costs twice as much per capita as pretty much anywhere else in the world , while producing health outcomes that put us at the bottom of the list of developed nations was considered the sensible choice.

Roadkilled > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/14/2020 at 09:56

My first overnight stay in a hospital came when I was 37 back in 2004. It was only 8 days, and it * only* cost $50,000. At the time, that was a good part of a year’s pay . Part of it was covered by the insurance company of the woman who ran the red light and then ran over me . The rest was covered by my insurance for being hit by an underinsured motorist. I got to see the bills because of that insurance mess.

facw > Roadkilled
06/14/2020 at 10:48

Username checks out I guess...

Roadkilled > facw
06/14/2020 at 11:05

That’s how I picked the username. However, it isn’t entirely true. I wasn’t actually killed. I had stopped breathing and went into cardiac arrest, but the ER doctors revived me before I was fully dead.

facw > Roadkilled
06/14/2020 at 11:35

I think stopped breathing is close enough, I wouldn’t recommend trying for any more than that.

ttyymmnn > Svend
06/14/2020 at 12:24

Wow, socialism really sucks.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja:
06/14/2020 at 15:14

Not -cost- to keep him alive. It's how much they are able to get away with charging for those services.

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
06/14/2020 at 15:27

It is what it is. Not like doctors in Canada are working for free. Just a matter of who’s footing the bill, which in the end is always you, in one way or another.

Svend > ttyymmnn
06/14/2020 at 15:47

Ye’, but were resilient and we pull through. Lol.

I wouldn’t change our system for anything else, anywhere else.

ttyymmnn > Svend
06/14/2020 at 16:00

I understand. My mom came to visit one Christmas and had to go to the ER because she was worried about her heart. She spent two nights in the hospital (she was fine) and if she hadn’t had supplemental insurance she’d be living in a cardboard box.

Svend > ttyymmnn
06/14/2020 at 16:08

and there’s still people in the U.S. that think that’s the way it should be.

It’s not a question anyone should be getting wrong.

ttyymmnn > Svend
06/14/2020 at 16:16

I’m pretty sure that everybody, when asked, would agree that a system where you pay little to nothing to be healthy is a good idea. But the people who stand to benefit the most from the current system have convinced too many people that such a system makes us Socialists™ and that is akin to Communism and that the system will be terrible and the doctors will be terrible and that we’ll all die and after all we don’t want the poors to be healthy anyway.

Svend > ttyymmnn
06/14/2020 at 16:46

Actually I’ve seen to many U.S. videos where they interview or just ask Americans in the street whether they are happy with the U.S. system. The older generation in the majority part are happy with it, the younger generation, n ot so much.

One woman who said she’d gone without insurance for two years because she couldn’t afford it, had not gone to the doctor or hospital because she couldn’t afford it. Though when asked if she would like the universal healthcare system for a slight raise in taxes. She said no.

I was screaming at the monitor, ‘I T WOULD BE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN TAXES, BUT YOU WOULDN’T BE PAYING HEALTHCARE INSURANCE OR COPAY COST, YOU’D BE SAVING MONEY!!!!!’.

Some people are too stupid to be helped.

Some have argued you’d be working to pay taxes and have no life.

Everyone here has an allowance of Ł11,000 income before you even start paying income tax. But that income tax funds the police, hospitals, etc...

Svend > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/15/2020 at 15:08

This is the video I wanted to post here the other day.

It’s quite long but really informative.